CHAPTER VII THE LITERARY AUTOGRAPHS OF THREE CENTURIES From the days of Shakespeare and Spenser to those of Thackeray, Dickens, Tennyson, and Meredith—The value of literary autographs and MSS. In a man's letters, you know, Madame, his soul lies naked—his letters are only the mirror of his heart.—Dr. Johnson to Mrs. Thrale. Political interest is ephemeral, but literary interest is eternal.—Adrian H. Joline, "Meditations of an Autograph Collector." By a felicitous coincidence two literary autographs of more than ordinary interest have come to light at the moment I was preparing to write the present chapter. The first is the discovery in the Record Office by Dr. Wallace of the signed deposition of Shakespeare in an early seventeenth-century lawsuit, under the circumstances picturesquely set forth in the issue of Harper's Monthly Magazine for March, 1910. Without conceding to Dr. Wallace's "find" the supreme importance claimed for it by this able and patient examiner of ancient MSS., there can be no doubt that it deals a fatal and final blow to the Baconian theory. On the very day I read Dr. Wallace's article, Mr. J. H. Stonehouse THE SIGNATURE OF SHAKESPEARE ON THE LAST PAGE OF HIS WILL. Mr. Adrian Joline's theory as to the "eternity of interest" in literary autographs receives support from the exceptionally high prices they have commanded from the early days of the collection of MSS., when the signatures of kings and statesmen were almost at a discount. "I shall now," writes the chronicler of autograph prices in 1827, "set poetry, philosophy, history, and works of imagination against sceptres, swords, robes, and big-wigs.... Addison is worth £2 15s., Pope £3 5s., and Swift £3. Thomson has sold for £5 10s. and Burns for £3 10s. Churchill, the abuser of his compatriots, is valued at £1 18s. In philosophy Dr. Franklin reaches £1 17s.; in history, Hume is valued at £1 18s. and Gibbon at only 8s. The sturdy moralist Johnson ranks at £1 16s., the graceful trifler Sterne at £2 2s., Smollett at £2 10s., and Richardson at £1. Scott only yields In cataloguing the last-named item Mr. Barker says "that one of these celebrated letters realised by auction a short time since no less than £47." He also prices two A.L.S. of Robert Burns at £35 and £32 respectively. It will be remembered that in 1827 the price for a Burns letter was £3 10s. only. For a letter of Schiller (4 pp., 8vo, 1801) Mr. Barker asks £7 7s. In several catalogues of this period I find Keats letters averaging £20 to £30. The interesting catalogue issued by Mr. Barker in 1891 is remarkable for its wealth of literary rariora. Autograph letters are priced in it as follows: Schiller, £10 10s.; Burns, £25; Wordsworth, £3 3s.; Thackeray, £25. The last-named letter is worth describing. It was addressed to Miss Holmes, with a postscript on the inside of the envelope, and on the There is a comfortable Hotel in this street, kept by a respectable family man, the charges are Beds gratis, Breakfasts, thank you, dinner and tea, ditto, servants included in these charges. Get a cab from the station, and come straightway to No. 13. I dine out with the Dean of St. Paul's (you have heard of a large meeting house we have between Ludgate Hill and Cheapside, with a round roof?). Some night we will have a select T party, but not whilst you are staying here. When you are in your lodgings. Why I will ask Sir Edward George Earle Lytton, Bulwer Lytton himself. Bulwer's boots are very fine in the accompanying masterly design (refer to the sketch), remark the traces of emotion on the cheeks of the other author (the notorious W. M. T.), I have caricatured Dr. Newman (with an immense nose) and the Cardinal too, you ought to know that. This letter would be now worth quite £50, and some of the fine illustrated Thackeray letters now in possession of Mr. Frank Sabin would probably be cheap at £100 each. Mr. Sabin's collection of the Thackerayana is probably unrivalled both as regards the United Kingdom and America. In Mr. Barker's 1891 catalogue there are four letters of Shelley, priced at £18 18s., £19 19s., £10 10s., and £9 9s. respectively. There is also a Schiller at £25, and an Alexander Pope covering one page 8vo only at £8. Darwin is already at £1 10s., Disraeli at 18s., and the Dickens letters average about £2. A letter of Dr. Priestley, worth perhaps 5s. in 1827, is now offered at £2 2s. DEED CONTAINING THE SIGNATURE OF FRANCIS BACON, LORD VERULAM, AND NEARLY ALL THE MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY, TEMP. JAMES I. (In the collection of Messrs. Ellis.) I am permitted by Mr. F. Sabin to reproduce Depfd, 25—7:—90. 'Tis now (methinks) so very long since I saw or heard from my Ext Friend: that I cannot but enquire after his Health: If he aske what I am doing all this while? Sarcinam compono, I am making up my fardle, that I may march the freer: for the meane time— Do you expect a more proper Conjuncture than this approaching Session, to do yourself Right—by publishing that which all good men (who love and honour you) cannot but rejoice to see? you owe it to God, to your Country & to yr Selfe, and therefore I hope you seriously think of & resolve upon it. I am just now making a step to Wotton to Visite my good Brother there, Importunately desiring to see me: himselfe succumbing apace to Age and its Accidents: I think not of staying above a week or ten daies, & within a little after my returne be almost ready to remove our small family neerer you for the winter, In which I promise myselfe the Hapynesse of a Conversation the most Gratefull to Sr I rent this page from the other before I was aware, and now tis to full to begin againe for good maners. Give my most Humble Service to Dr. Gule. A.L.S. OF JOHN EVELYN TO SAMUEL PEPYS, DEPTFORD, SEPTEMBER 25, 1700. (In the collection of Mr. Frank Sabin.) Milton, to a certain extent, was a contemporary of both Pepys and Evelyn, but he had been dead sixteen years at the date of the letter now quoted. The value of Milton's autographs is fully discussed by Dr. Scott in the pages of The Archivist. EARLY SIGNATURE OF JOHN MILTON ON DOCUMENTS NOW IN POSSESSION OF MR. QUARITCH. Letters of Dryden and Cowley have fetched very high prices, Alexander Pope at Twickenham to Ralph Allen, Esq., Widcombe, Bath. (November 2. 1738.) Dear Sir,—I trouble you with my answers to the Inclosed wch I beg you to give to Mr Lyttelton as I wd do him all ye Good I can, wh the Virtues I know him possest of, deserve; and therefore I wd Present him with so Honest a Man as you, and you with so Honest a man as he: The Matter concerning Urns I wd gladly leave in yr Care, and I desire four small ones with their Pedestals, may be made, and two of a size larger. I'l send those sizes to you and I send a Draft of ye two sorts, 4 of one and 2 of ye other. I am going to insert in the body of my Works, my two last Poems in Quarto. I always Profit myself of ye opinion of ye publick to correct myself on such occasions. And sometimes the Merits of particular Men, whose names I have made free with for examples either of Good or of Bad, determine me to alteration. I have found the Virtue in you more than I certainly knew before till I had made experiment of it, I mean Humility! I must therefore in justice to my own conscience of it bear testimony to it and change the epithet I first gave you of Low-born, to Humble. I shall take care to do you the justice to tell everybody this change was not made at yours, or at any friends request for you: but my own knowledge (of) you merited it. I receive daily fresh proofs of your kind remembrance of me. The Bristol waters, the Guinea Hens, the Oyl and Wine (two Scripture benedictions) all came safe except ye wine, wch was turned on one side, and spilt at ye Corks. However tis no loss to me for that sort I dare not drink on acct of ye Bile, but my friends may and that is the same thing as if I did. Adieu! Is Mr Hook with you? I wish I were, for a month at least; for less I wd not come. Pray advise him not to be so modest. I hope he sees Mr. Lyttelton. I must expect your good offices with Mrs. Allen, so let her know I honour a good woman much but a good Wife more. I am ever, yours faithfully, Twitnam. Nov 2 (1738). My other three Pope letters are unknown. They are addressed to Mr. Bethel on Tower Hill, London, Mr. Charles Ford in Park Place, and Mr. Jonathan Richardson, of Queen Square, London. The last-named was catalogued last year as written to Samuel Richardson. I gave £5 for it. Mr. Barker valued it at £8 in 1891. It provides an antidote to the unkind things Pope wrote about "Sulphureous" Bath on other occasions:— Bath. November 14. 1742. De Sir,—The whole purpose of this is only to tell you that the length of my stay at this distance from you, has not made me unmindful of you; and that I think you have regard enough for me to be pleased to hear, I have been, and am, better than usual. In about a fortnight or three weeks I hope to find you as little altered as possible at yr age, as when I left you, as I am at mine. God send you all Ease, philosophical and physical. I am your sincerely-affectionate friend and servant, My services to yr Son. The letters of Horace Walpole, who generally wrote for posterity, are valuable, Horace Walpole to Hannah More. March 11. I heard at Mrs. Ord's last night that you are not well. I wou'd fain flatter myself that you had only a pain in your apprehension of the coaches full of mob that were crowding the streets, but as I do not take for granted whatever will excuse me from caring, as people that are indifferent readily do, I beg to hear from yourself how you are. I do not mean from your own hand, but lips—send me an exact message, and if it is a good one it will give real pleasure to yours most sincerely, H. Walpole. PS.—Mrs. Prospero, who is my Miranda, was there last night with a true blue embroidered favour, that cast a ten times more important colour on her accents and made her as potent in her own eyes as Sycorax. To Miss More at the Adelphi. PAGE OF DR. JOHNSON'S DIARY RECORDING HIS IMPRESSIONS OF STONEHENGE, ETC., 1783. The value of Johnson's letters has varied very little during the past quarter of a century, an A.L.S. of exceptional interest often bringing £40 or £50. Possibly his historic letters to Macpherson and Chesterfield or his ultimatum to Mrs. Thrale would now fetch considerably more. In the Haber Sale at New York a 2 pp. 4to A.L.S. dated April 13, 1779, to Cadell brought £17. I possess several Johnson letters, many of them unpublished and written during the last year of his life. The following A.L.S. to Mr. Ryland was seemingly unknown to Dr. Birkbeck Hill:— To Mr. Ryland, Merchant in London. Dear Sir,—I have slackened in my diligence of correspondence, certainly not by ingratitude or less delight to hear from my friends, and as little would I have it imputed to idleness, or amusement of any other kind. The truth is that I care not much to think on my own state. I have for some time past grown worse, the water makes slow advances, and I am, Pray write. Lichfield, Oct. 30, 1784. THE TWO LAST PAGES OF THE MS. JOURNAL OF MRS. THRALE'S TOUR IN WALES, JULY-SEPTEMBER, 1774, DESCRIBING THE DINNER AT BURKE'S. Six months before his death he writes thus to Mr. Nicoll on the subject of Cook's voyages:— To Mr. Nicoll, You were pleased to promise me that when the great Voyage should be published, you would send it to me. I am now at Pembroke College, Oxford, and if you can conveniently enclose it in a parcel, or send it any other way, I shall think the perusal of it a great favour. I am, Curiously enough, one of the last subjects upon which Johnson concentrated his waning energies in 1783-84 was that of the possibilities of the balloon, which he persistently called "ballon." For some years I have been an assiduous collector of the letters and MSS. of George Crabbe. I now possess his two historic letters to Edmund Burke. It was in the earliest of these (once the property of Sir Theodore Martin) that he made his despairing appeal for pecuniary aid to save him from suicide or starvation. Fifty-one years later, George Crabbe, Rector of Trowbridge, lay a-dying. He receives in his sick-chamber the following letter from John Forster:— John Forster to George Crabbe. [Letter franked by Edward Lytton Bulwer.] 4 Burton St. Revd. Sir,—I beg, very respectfully to submit to your inspection the enclosed paper. With the greatest respect, After Crabbe's death the following almost illegible draft of a reply was found amongst his papers:— It wd ill become me who have been so greatly [much] indebted to the kindness of my Friends, that [I should refuse to do what I could] disregard [not respond to] the application you are so good as to make on behalf of Mr. Leigh Hunt. My influence I fear is small [living] residing as, I do, where little except Cloth is made, little except Newspapers read. This is, however, not without exceptions. [It is] I consider it as doing myself Honour to join [however feebly] my [name with those endeavouring] attempt to serve [a distinguished member of] a man for whose welfare [those] such distinguished persons are interested [whose names are connected] to the [printed copy] paper [of the paper] printed [destined] for general Circulation I am Sir —— History had repeated itself, only the rÔles were reversed. In 1832 the benefactor was Crabbe, and the distressed man of letters Hunt! I have elected to speak of Burke amongst the writers, although he can claim a high place amongst the statesmen. His letters are always valuable, although the price fetched for two exceptionally fine specimens at the Haber Sale (New York, December 10, 1909) was disappointing. A long letter, written in his twentieth year, brought only £4 8s.; a splendid letter from Bath a short time before his death was sold for £6 8s. The following letter from Edmund Burke to Mrs. Montagu (one of many I have the good fortune to possess) has a distinct vein of American interest:— Westminster, Dear Madam,—I was in hopes, that I might have sent you, together with my acknowledgement for your kindness, the only I cannot at all express how much obliged I am for the extremely friendly manner in which you take up my friends Mr. Burke's case. He is himself as sensible, as he is worthy of your goodness. It is something to be distinguished by the regards of those who regard but few. But to have a distinguished part in the mind where all have their places is much more flattering. We have now almost finished our tedious Sessions; and I hope to make you my acknowledgement when you return, somewhat more at leisure. The news from America is not very pleasing. Indeed I know of no News but that of Peace which can be so, to any well-disposed mind. General Howe has been driven from Boston, partly by scarcity, partly by a sharp Cannonade and Bombardment. He therefore made his disposition so well that they had not induced his return soon enough to give him any disturbance. He has collected everything with him and he has retired to the only place we have now on that extensive coast, Halifax, where, I doubt, for some little time at least he will not be much better commanded in point of provision though he will be practically out of reach of an enemy. Mrs. Burke joins me with all the rest of the family in faithful pledge to you, in the best compliments to yourself and to your most agreeable Miss Gregory. I am, with the most sincere regard and highest esteem Passing to the nineteenth century, which was to witness the eclipse of the art of letter-writing as well as the disappearance of the frank, we come to In Harren und Krieg in Sturz und Sieg bewust und gros So riss er uns Von Feinden los HOLOGRAPH LINES BY GOETHE ON BLÜCHER, CIRCA 1812-13. My friend, Mr. G. L. de St. M. Watson, gives me a forcible metrical translation: In warring or tarrying, In victory or woe, He towers; and through him We're freed from the foe. A.L.S. OF JOHN KEATS (THREE PAGES) TO J. H. REYNOLDS, FEBRUARY 28, 1820. Goethe was an enthusiastic collector of MSS. as well as a poet. Of the autograph cult he wrote:— As I personally possess a considerable collection of autographs and often take occasion to examine and reflect upon them, it seems to me that every one who directs his thoughts to this subject may succeed in taking several steps in the right direction, which may lead to his own improvement and satisfaction, if not to the instruction of others. The value of Keats, Shelley, Byron and Scott letters I have already spoken of. In the Haber Sale a Keats letter brought £500! Letters of Charles Lamb range from £4 to £10 or more in price. I purchased the following note to Hone for £2 2s. and believe I secured a bargain:— To Mr. Hone. 45 Ludgate Hill Dear Sir,—I was not very well or in spirits when your pleasing note reached me or should have noticed sooner. Our Hebrew Brethren seem to appreciate the good news of this life in more liberal latitude than we to judge from frequent graces. One I think you must have omitted "After concluding a bargain." Their distinction of "fruits growing upon trees" and "upon the ground" I can understand. A sow makes quite a different grunt her grace from eating chestnuts and pignuts. The last is a little above Ela with this and wishing grace be with you, Yours LETTER OF LORD TENNYSON TO MR. MOXON. A.L.S. OF LORD BYRON TO MR. PERRY, MARCH 1, 1812. Of the literary autograph letters and MSS. of the Victorian era the highest prices are obtained for those of Alfred Tennyson and George Meredith. In a catalogue lately issued by Messrs. Sotheran ILLUSTRATED LETTER OF W. M. THACKERAY FROM GLASGOW. (In the collection of Mr. Frank Sabin.) LINES FROM THE "ILIAD." SPECIMEN OF THE MS. OF THE LATE MR. GEORGE MEREDITH. (By kind permission of Mr. Clement K. Shorter.) W. M. Thackeray and Charles Dickens were both voluminous letter-writers. The letters of the former now command higher prices than those of any Victorian My dear Count,—This note has just come to hand, and you see I take the freedom with you of speaking the truth. I dont like this announcement at all. Our Saviour and the Count d'Orsay ought not to appear in those big letters. It somehow looks as if you and our Lord were on a par, and put forth as equal attractions by the publisher. Dont mind my saying this, for I'm sure this sort of announcement (merely on account of the unfortunate typography) is likely to shock many honest folks. Yours always faithfully In the earlier part of his career, Thackeray wrote a running hand very different to the upright calligraphy of his later life. A.L.S. OF W. M. THACKERAY TO COUNT D'ORSAY ON FLY-LEAF OF CIRCULAR ANNOUNCING THE PUBLICATION OF A PICTURE, N.D. Early Dickens letters of any length are eagerly sought for, and sell for nearly three times as much as those written between 1850 and his death. I am able to give illustrations of some exceptionally early Thackeray and Dickens letters, which came into the possession of Mr. George Gregory, of Bath, through whose hands the Autograph Album of the first Charles Dickens at Broadstairs to Frederick Dickens, Commissariat, Treasury, Whitehall. Sunday September Twelfth 1841. My dear Fred,—The wording of the Minute is certainly discouraging. If I saw any way of helping you by coming up to town, I would do so, immediately. But I cannot possibly apply to the Tories for anything. I daresay they would be glad enough if I would, but I cannot with any regard to honor, consistency, or truth, ask any favour of people whom politically, I despise and abhor. It would tie my hands, seal my lips, rob my pen of its honesty, and bind me neck and heels in discreditable fetters. Is Archer in Town? If so, have you spoken to him? If not, when is he coming? You should speak to him certainly. I have told you before, that I am much afraid you have not treated him with that show of respect, which he has a right to claim. Why in the name of God should he have a personal dislike to you, but for some such reason as this? If you think, and I see no objection to your asking Mr. Archer the question, that without doing anything improper, you might memorialise the Treasury, I will draw a memorial for you. If you have reason to think this would be unofficial and ill-advised, I know of nothing better than waiting and hoping. I should be as sorry as you, if you were to lose this step. Let me hear from you by return Affectionately always EARLY A.L.S. OF W. M. THACKERAY TO MR. MACRONE, PUBLISHER, DISCOVERED BY MR. GEORGE GREGORY, OF BATH. (First style of handwriting in 1836.) The touching letter recording his feelings at the death of his little daughter is, I think, a human document of more than ordinary interest:— Charles Dickens to Thomas Mitton. Devonshire Terrace My Dear Mitton,—I have been in trouble, or I should have written to you sooner. My wife has been, and is, far from well. Frederick caused me much vexation and expense. My poor father's death caused me much distress—and more expense—but of that, in such a case I say nothing. I came to London last Monday to preside at a public dinner—played with little Dora my youngest child before I went—and was told, when I left the chair, that she had died in a moment. I am quite myself again, but I have undergone a great deal. I send you all the papers I have relating to Thompson's affair. I am in town again now and shall be at home on Monday, Tuesday, Friday and Saturday mornings. I am not going back to Malvern, but have let this house until September, and taken the Fort at Broadstairs. Yrs faithfully FIRST PAGE OF ONE OF CHARLES DICKENS'S LAST LETTERS, MAY 15, 1870. Here is one of the last letters he ever wrote, to which I have already alluded as a rare specimen of a valuable autograph written in duplicate:— Charles Dickens to J. B. Buckstone. Gad's Hill Place, My Dear Buckstone,—I send a duplicate of this note to your private address at Sydenham in case it should miss you at the Haymarket. For a few years past, I have been liable, at wholly uncertain and incalculable times, to a severe attack of Neuralgia in the foot, about once in the course of the year. It began in an injury to the finer muscles or nerves, occasioned by over-walking in deep snow. When it comes I hope you will present my duty to the Prince, and assure His Royal Highness that nothing short of my being (most unfortunately) disabled for the moment, would have prevented my attending as a Trustee of the Fund, at the dinner, and warmly express my poor sense of the great and inestimable service his Royal Highness renders to a most deserving Institution by so very kindly commending it to the public. Faithfully your's always J. B. Buckstone Eqr A.L.S. OF HONOURABLE MRS. NORTON CONTAINING AN INVITATION TO MEET CHARLES DICKENS, THE AUTHOR OF "PICKWICK," AT DINNER. EARLY LETTER OF CHARLES DICKENS TO MR. MACRONE (1836) FROM FURNIVAL'S INN. (Now in the collection of Mr. Peter Keary.) A.L.S. OF "PERDITA" (MARY ROBINSON) TO GEORGE, PRINCE OF WALES, JANUARY 19, 1785. Carlyle's letters vary in price from £2 2s. to £5 5s. or more. The following note explains how the specimen of his calligraphy I reproduce was obtained for an autograph hunter by his nephew in 1877:— Newlands Cottage My dear Sir,—I was much pleased to have your's of the 4th inst. I enclose card of admission to the Installn at Edinburgh which I cribbed from the Govr's Sunday coat long after its date, and which to tell the truth I did not intend to part with; but I think it so thoroughly what your friend would like that I have resolved to send it. All Uncle Tom's late letters to his relatives are written on scraps of paper that might be at hand when he finished work for the day and signed 'T. C.' only—all full signatures in letters in my possession have long ago been clipped off.... Always faithfully your's The letters of Whistler have quadrupled in value since his death. I possess several of them, but only give as an illustration of his handwriting a post-card from Lyme Regis bearing by way of signature the once familiar butterfly. "Mark Twain" was also a very amusing letter-writer. The following postscript is characteristic of his humour:— Since penning the foregoing the "Atlantic" has come to hand with that most thoroughly and entirely satisfactory notice of "Roughing it," and I am as uplifted and reassured by it as a mother who has given birth to a white baby when she was awfully afraid it was going to be a mulatto. I have been afraid and shaky all along, but now unless the N. of "Tribune" gives the book a black eye, I am all right. With many thanks HOLOGRAPH ORDER OF ADMISSION OF THOMAS CARLYLE TO HIS RECTORIAL ADDRESS AT EDINBURGH UNIVERSITY, DATED MARCH 23, 1866. George Augustus Sala and Edmund Yates were friends and contemporaries of Charles Dickens, and survived him. They are both entitled to a place amongst the last of the Victorian letter-writers. The minute handwriting of Sala was even more distinct than that of Thackeray. Here is a typical Sala letter:— Hotel de Flandre, Montagne de la Cour, Brussels, Dear Lady Wolseley,—My wife who during my absence is my Postmistress General, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Secretary of State for Home and Foreign Affairs and Chief Commissioner of Works all rolled into one, has forwarded me your note, and has scribbled on the margin "with two lovely photographs." I hasten to thank you for the graceful and thoughtful kindness which has prompted your welcome gift. I am proud to believe that you know how much I admire and esteem your illustrious husband; how eagerly I have followed the course of his splendid and well-deserved fortunes, and how highly I value the friendship with which during so many years he has honoured me. It is really to me a pleasure to have grown old when I remember that amongst my most prized relics at home are a visiting card inscribed "Major Wolseley, for Mr. Sala, St. Lawrence Hall, Montreal 1863"; the walking stick which Sir Garnet Wolseley brought me home from South Africa; the letter which Lord Wolseley wrote me from the Kremlin, Moscow on Coronation Day 1883, to which I am now able to add "two lovely photographs" and your kind note. Were I going alone on my long and arduous journey, my abiding hope would be, of course, to come home safe and sound to my wife. Happily we are not to be separated (although the friendly but cynical solicitor, who made my will just before I left town was good enough to remark you must add a codicil in case you are both drowned); so we shall both, during our wanderings be able to nourish the pleasant hope that we shall be permitted on our return to pay our homage to the Earl and Countess Wolseley. I have, dear Madam, in my time, prophesied a great deal more in print about your Lord than you are aware of, and I am Your Ladyship's faithful and obliged servant A.L.S. OF JOHN WESLEY, JUNE 14, 1788. Some hundreds of Edmund Yates's letters are in my possession, and I have utilised them to extra-illustrate his "Recollections" which I have extended to seventeen volumes. In the last edition of his entertaining book he alludes to the pleasure a letter from Mr. Charles Kent, the friend of Dickens, gave him in "troublous times." More than twenty years after I gladly gave 5s. for the original in the auction room:— To Charles Kent Esq 1 Campden Grove, Kensington, W Ah! my dear old friend, how good and thoughtful of you and what a perfectly acceptable gift! 'though fallen on evil days on evil days though fallen and evil tongues' (vide to-day's Times) I am receiving such evidences of love and sympathy from my friends, and such kindness from officials here, that I am fairly broken down by them. God bless you Holloway, Jany 17 '85 |